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PostSubject: Strongest pokemon in NU   May 31st 2012, 1:51 pm

What is your opinion of the strongest NU pokemon in Pokemon Online's and Smogon's server?
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   May 31st 2012, 1:51 pm

Personally in my opinion, in PO's server CB Emboar has the most raw power, and in Smogon's one ummm, maybe Gorebyss.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   May 31st 2012, 3:36 pm

Specs magmortar is probably my oppinion. What can take a specs Thunderbolt, Fire Blast or HP ice. Then maybe overheat / focus blast for some extra coverage.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   May 31st 2012, 6:20 pm

I quote Fakestreet :3
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   May 31st 2012, 8:52 pm

Magmortar is NU in Smogon? Cuz its Banned on PO. On my Opinion Klingklang is the most broken and all my NU teams are based on it
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   May 31st 2012, 9:05 pm

I've played NU on and off a few times and I have to say its such an unstable tier like some of the other dead tiers. Pokes always moving up and down tiers like Snover used to be NU, now its not and Hippo is. Audino was LU but now its finally in NU which is great, Quag just moved up to LU which I don't like. Missy has gone up and down. Such a mess IMO.

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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 1st 2012, 3:13 am

Actually, PO's NU is very stable right now, pokemons moving up and down doesn't make a tier unstable, for the two months in which nothing is going up or down, and no suspect discussions or retests, now that's a balanced tier. Which is currently PO's NU. But on the other hand, Smogon's NU is broken as hell, Gorebyss destroying teams with Shell Smash, Braviary raping with Banded Brave Bird, Charizard+Sawsbuck in a sun team and it's basically gg. All those things are banned in PO NU.

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Oh yeah, which made me think that, Post your favorite pokemon from both PO and Smogon NU, Magmortar in allowed in Smogon NU but banned in PO.


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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 1st 2012, 9:22 am

On Smogon My Favourite Would Be Sawsbuck. It's so Broken in NU that you can't wall it without sacrificing a Mon. Revenge killing is the only way.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 2nd 2012, 3:58 pm

I don't really find Sawsbuck broken. But maybe it is, who knows. my thoughts are that Charizard and Gorebyss are the most broken things in Smogon NU.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 3rd 2012, 6:35 pm

Charizard does get walled by Regirock and the other waters. There are lotsa water types in NU so It isn't that broken but gorebyss is just GG material
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 5th 2012, 10:13 am

Regirock? Spece+Solar Power Solarbeam= GG to both regirock and bulky waters.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 5th 2012, 10:57 am

Seems legit but in General SR weak makes it less dangerous than Gorebyss
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 6th 2012, 3:56 am

Yeah, being SR weak really sucks, but it has far more raw power compared to Sawsbuck.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 3:16 am

You might all disagree with me here but my favourite is by far Marowak. I generally use a Baton Pass team so it's generally easy for me to sweep with him after a few speed boosts and at least one Swords Dance. Of course there are still a few Pokemon that resist it but if I manage to get a +6 Attack boost(which has happenend a few times) it just sweeps through teams with incredible ease because if you give it a thinck club and get +6 attack with a nature that boosts attack you get 2000+ attack! Which pretty much destroys any team and breaks pretty much every wall .
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 3:24 am

If a magikarp gets +6 it can sweep entire teams. When you are talking about pokemon's strenght you don't talk about baton pass or more than 1 boosts.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 4:06 am

Ya I know but what I meant is that it is a powerful pokemon, baton pass just makes makes it unstoppable. It works well on it's own also as it has proven when by baton passer got KO'd a few times. Especially if it manages to set up a substitute, because it can then take a powerful attack and strike back hard. Especially with a Thick Club as an item because it gives it 500+ attack. Honestly I admit that it is quite risky because of it's low speed stat but all in all it's still a pretty strong Pokemon and should be considered when making a team.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 8:54 am

Your point of +6 attack is exaggerating. No good player who knows his thing lets you set up to +6. But it is easy to pass +2/3 speed boosts to Marowak and it can punch holes in teams but its not the most menacing
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 1:00 pm

Like, Nexus and Darklight said, most often good players won't let you ever pass subs or SD's. Especially in Wifi where people have team preview and know what's up. In DW, this stuff may work as you can surprise them turn1 or they won't be able to analyze the recipients in advance. Speed can be passed usually via sub protect stalling but the recipient will take damage assuming they havent stopped ninjask.

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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 1:19 pm

I rarely get a +6 boost and if I manage to get a +5 speed boost then I always baton pass then because my opponent expects me to try to get +6 and also as Nexus said most of the time I get +2 attack and +3 speed so it's still able to sweep entire teams and anyway I only Baton Pass to Marowak when I know that he'll be able to survive the attack that it'll be hit with and still hit back hard. So I'm not saying that it doesn't have it's flaws but it's still a force to be reckoned with especially if you use bonemerang instead of EQ because then it can break sturdy and Sashes. Also if you don't manage to get speed boosts and the opponent uses trick room you can easily turn it against them by swiching to Marowak. I've done it once or twice and it punches huge holes in the team.
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 2:02 pm

Marowaks QuakeEdge coverage certainly makes it a force to be reckoned with as a wall breaker but not much as a sweeper. Anyway Everyone Forgot about Good ol Ludicolo?
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 2:27 pm

I think Ludi moved up to LU

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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 7th 2012, 7:49 pm

I never really used it or faced it but it seems like a force to be rekoned with
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 8th 2012, 3:24 pm

Ludicolo is LU now, Nexus slow '-'
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 8th 2012, 5:03 pm

Oh yeah forgot sorry. What about CB sawk? has no counters
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PostSubject: Re: Strongest pokemon in NU   June 9th 2012, 3:18 pm

So I tried Marowak in my Trick Room team and it was pretty good. @ Nexus Ludicolo is LU on PO now :/(Which sucks) ,but still stronger than ever on Smogon. I really like the Offensive tank set of Ludicolo but is the BEAST SS sweeper. I also see theres a Swords Dance set anyone tried it yet?


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