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Meh Title: Level 16 Eevee
Posts : 46 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Your favourite Arceus May 1st 2012, 1:07 pm | |
| So as anyone who has played Gen 4 or 5 Ubers should know, Arceus is everywhere in the metagame. However Arceus doesn't exactly only run 1 set all the time, it has a variety of sets it can use. My question is which one have you found most effective? Remember I'm not asking about favourites.
Posting the whole set would be nice, and a little detail as to why you find this more effective, how it helps you etc.
For me it's definitely this one which Luck introduced me to: Arceus-Drago (Arceus-Dragon) @ Draco Plate Trait: Multitype EVs: 120 HP / 252 SAtk / 136 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Substitute - Calm Mind - Judgment - Recover
Dragon Arceus is quite rare, but Dragon typing isn't actually that bad. Dragon type attacks have very few resistances, and very few Ferrothorns run Gyro Ball (which only has 8 PP anyways), so Dragonceus can set up. And it hits a heck load (notably spin blockers screw you Giratina .-.) quite nicely.
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123Fakestreet Title: Level 1 Weedle
Posts : 11 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 18th 2012, 5:37 pm | |
| Hmmm, I think my favourite has probably got to be, sadly the good ol' extreme killer because it just works.
Arceus @ Life Orb / Lum Berry / Silk Scarf Trait: Multitype EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Swords Dance - Extremespeed - Earthquake / Brick Break - Shadow Force / Shadow Claw
Sets up very easily and can clear a game up later on, also is extremely hard to wall efficiently and can generally clean out most revenge killers with extremespeed. Not in the mood to right more but if I must then I guess I must, but later. | |
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 18th 2012, 7:08 pm | |
| NexCeus (Arceus-Steel) @ Iron Plate Trait: Multitype EVs: 136 HP / 220 Def / 96 SAtk / 40 SDef / 16 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Focus Blast - Judgment - Recover
Definitely My favourite. I guess it's a bit original. Sets up on So many pokemon. I Suggest you run it along with a pokemon that attracts scarfed ice attackes example: Skymin. So when Locked into Ice, set up and Rape shit. It's Bulky enough which makes it incredibly tough to Kill. Groudon gets a good 65% On +1. Can Blast hole through Cores which enables other Pokemon to sweep. | |
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Darklight Title: Level 61 Venusaur
Posts : 346 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 26th 2012, 9:49 am | |
| Extremekiller Arceus Got This. | |
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Mylo Xyloto Title: Level 21 Charmeleon
Posts : 57 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 30th 2012, 1:05 pm | |
| - Darklight wrote:
- Extremekiller Arceus Got This.
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 30th 2012, 8:58 pm | |
| Anything other innovative than Extremekiller please | |
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ZodiaK Title: Admin
Posts : 214 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 30th 2012, 9:30 pm | |
| Arc Ground/Grass/Ghost are great on stall teams and some other types. Notably with recover, perish song, will of wisp, énd like ice beam with enough evs to outpace rayquaza. Depends on what your team needs | |
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 31st 2012, 10:19 am | |
| I've seen Arceus Electric Work Great on Rain teams. Since Electric has only weakness, After a CM it's pretty tough to beat. Groudon Gets Frosted By Ice Beam. Chansey And Ferrothorn do wall it but if you Run Substitute both Chansey and Ferrothorn are in Some trouble. | |
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Mylo Xyloto Title: Level 21 Charmeleon
Posts : 57 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus May 31st 2012, 12:08 pm | |
| - Nexus wrote:
- I've seen Arceus Electric Work Great on Rain teams. Since Electric has only weakness, After a CM it's pretty tough to beat. Groudon Gets Frosted By Ice Beam. Chansey And Ferrothorn do wall it but if you Run Substitute both Chansey and Ferrothorn are in Some trouble.
I tried it today and its really good. | |
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 1st 2012, 9:21 am | |
| Mhm and Arceus Fighting seems to work really well too. With Extreme Speed+Fighting Move it's pretty Hard to wall except maybe Lugia and Groudon | |
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Mylo Xyloto Title: Level 21 Charmeleon
Posts : 57 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 9th 2012, 11:59 am | |
| I tried using Arceus-Ghost and loved it, I used this set: Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate Trait: Multitype EV's: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP Timid Nature - Substitute / Recover - Focus Blast - Judgement - Calm Mind
This set makes Arceus a BEAST. It has perfect coverage and can even set-up on Pink blobs via Sub. | |
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123Fakestreet Title: Level 1 Weedle
Posts : 11 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 9th 2012, 12:13 pm | |
| - Mylo wrote:
- I tried using Arceus-Ghost and loved it, I used this set:
Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate Trait: Multitype EV's: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP Timid Nature - Substitute / Recover - Focus Blast - Judgement - Calm Mind
This set makes Arceus a BEAST. It has perfect coverage and can even set-up on Pink blobs via Sub. I don't think it needs all that speed tbh. You can probably put a load in HP to make it take hits better, those base 120 stats seriously make arceus a nightmare for anyone to deal with. | |
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Mylo Xyloto Title: Level 21 Charmeleon
Posts : 57 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 9th 2012, 3:08 pm | |
| What HP investment do you suggest? | |
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ZodiaK Title: Admin
Posts : 214 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 9th 2012, 10:29 pm | |
| you need 404 Hp at least so you can make 101 Hp subs so stoss chansey cant break your subs, etc. | |
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 10th 2012, 5:45 pm | |
| Umm he is ghost arceus and hence 404 HP is not needed(Seismis toss doesn't hit ghosts). I would say HP EV it to reach an SR number and then split defense | |
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ZodiaK Title: Admin
Posts : 214 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 10th 2012, 10:09 pm | |
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Chromium Title: Level 26 Haunter
Posts : 75 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 11th 2012, 12:53 am | |
| Arceus-Ghost is awesome. I use him on my stall team and he serves as my spin blocker/fighting immunity. | |
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 11th 2012, 6:04 am | |
| It also serves well in stall teams as it has Perish song | |
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Mylo Xyloto Title: Level 21 Charmeleon
Posts : 57 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 15th 2012, 2:07 pm | |
| - Nexus wrote:
- It also serves well in stall teams as it has Perish song
Also moves like Will-O-Wisp, Toxic, Reflect, Light Screen, Protect, Tailwind, Rest, Sleep Talk, Recycle, Trick, Refresh, Recover, Cosmic Power, etc. as utility. | |
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Nexus Title: Admin
Posts : 472 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 17th 2012, 2:42 pm | |
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Sorelia Title: Level 46 Alakazam
Posts : 214 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 20th 2012, 2:34 pm | |
| Arceus Ghost
Swords Dance Shadow Force Extremespeed Brick Break(or smth)
Extremekiller Ghost Arceus | |
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ZoroDarX Title: Level 21 Charmeleon
Posts : 69 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus June 21st 2012, 12:56 pm | |
| Well my favorite Arceus set, and the one I'm using right now, is a very uncommon yet dangerous one: Fighting- form
Arceus-Fight (Arceus-Fighting) @ Fist Plate Trait: Multitype EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Judgment - Ice Beam - Recover
With Toxic Spikes support it's absolutely lethal, setting up after something Draco Meteor'ed or just every special move really. If you keep it away from Deoxys-A and Mewtwo, this set wins you games. He is one of the insurances vs Sand and Sun on my rain team. | |
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BlackValor Title: Level 16 Eevee
Posts : 49 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus July 22nd 2012, 9:00 pm | |
| i would have to say rockeus or groundeceus both standard special walls for stall teams. max HP/ somewhat random EVs split into the rest judgement recover ice beam filler/Cm | |
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| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus July 24th 2012, 5:20 pm | |
| Arceus Normal the monster wall that lives anything! 252hp, 224def, 32 spdef,impish,lefties -wilow wisp -frustration -recover -perish song UMADBRO? |
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Firer Title: Level 51 Scizor
Posts : 271 Kanto Gyms : Elite Four : Tournaments :
| Subject: Re: Your favourite Arceus July 24th 2012, 6:50 pm | |
| Whirlpool > return > frustration (srs i run frust first too cause lazy, but 1. Return fucks ditto up and 2. Return sounds cooler and you cant complain about hax if your pokes hates you so much that even tho its lvl 100 has 0 happiness... I would cockblock too if my trainer acts like that)
Also I used that ceus set too its a beast. Btw my fav ceus set (invented by mua etc.) I need to admit tho i forgot the exact ev spread, i edit in tomorrow: Max or 248 hp, enough speed to outspeed neutral max speed 90's (24 or something like that) and the rest in defense with impish nature. Leftovers SD Sub Espeed Sclaw
This thing won countless games for me as its able to set up on support groudon, lugia, girantina(-o) and way more that usually count to its counters. While it is a bit weak this thing can easily set up to +6 and troll all its usual counters (afaik no uninvested dtail even with stab and griesous boost is able to break the sub of it tho whirlwind and roar troll hard but they arent that common in ubers). There is nothing left to say except that i would kill a shitload of ppl if i could only run recover but i need every single move. I had it once > sclaw but then i dont beat gira 1v1 what is a pity and especially with pressure and since its not that strong espeed pps goes out from time to time so its good to have sclaw to kill a slower low life thing.
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